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ELC 081: Focusing On Behavior Change in Instructional Design

A Conversation with Julie Dirksen

by Connie Malamed

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Focusing on Behavior Change in Instructional Design with a photo of Julie Dirksen

Talk to the Elephant Book Cover by Julie DirksenSometimes, you may not have an appropriate tool or strategy to solve a learning design problem. If that’s ever happened to you, you might benefit from the behavior change model discussed in this episode. Julie Dirksen, author of Talk to the Elephant, describes what may be a missing aspect of the instructional design process: a way to implement a systems thinking approach for changing behaviors. We discuss a behavior change model, COM-B, and walk through a scenario to demonstrate its use.

Julie is also the author of Design for How People Learn. She is a learning strategist, consultant, and instructional designer at Usable Learning, creating highly interactive learning experiences for a wide range of clients.

WE DISCUSS:

  • The elephant and rider metaphor
  • Why we need to address both the elephant and the rider in learning experiences
  • Why instructional designers need to consider the broader system in which people are operating (systems thinking)
  • Applying the COM-B model to instructional design practice (COM-B stands for Capability, Opportunity, Motivation and Behavior)
  • A walk-through of a performance problem through the lens of COM-B

TIME: 32 Minutes

TRANSCRIPT: ELC 081 Transcript

RESOURCES:

  • Talk to the Elephant by Julie Dirksen
  • Design for How People Learn by Julie Dirksen
  • Usable Learning: Julie’s website
  • Sticky Learning: Julie’s online course
  • Are you getting any better? Previous podcast with Julie about improving the feedback loop for learning design

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